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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Mature skin suggestion

« on: March 26, 2012, 03:49:03 PM »

For the time being, buy just a 1.5 mm dermastamp and use it on your acne scars. A dermastamp is easier to use than a dermaroller and you will see how your skin reacts to microneedling. You do not have to insert the full length of the dermastamp needles into the skin. From our experience, mature skin does not react differently to dermarolling. Mature skin may be a little thinner.

In your first session, stamp just one scar to try.

   

  Use your 0.13 mm dermaroller to get your skin used to rolling and if everything goes well, buy a 0.5 or a 1 mm roller ilater to benefit overall skin texture, sun damage and pigmentation.

   

  You do not have to use acids.

   

  Dermarolling can help with "bumps" but if they are real milia, you have to extract them.

   

  Milia consist of keratin - the skin's hardest protein that makes the outer skin layer so tough. Hooves and nails are also made of keratin.

 

You can pierce a milium with the single needle (start with making one or two pricks into it - it should be enough) and extracting the entrapped keratin by very gently pushing it out with two paperclips.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Need some advice please on scarred/enlarged nose pores

« on: March 24, 2012, 07:13:15 PM »

I have written about saline injections here:

   

 https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/saline-injections-for-acne-scars/

   

    I have not heard from anybody using the saline injections for the nose.

 

Whatever you do, try it always on one scar only to see how the skin on your nose reacts to it and even if it reacts well, never do your whole nose in one session because it could still end up badly.

1068

Dermarolling / Microneedling / The 1 mm Roller

« on: March 24, 2012, 06:07:35 PM »

The skin consists of the epidermis and the dermis. The epidermis is about 0.1 to 0.2 mm thick. In order to trigger collagen production, you have to reach the dermis.

   

  Skin thickness varies, depending  on its location on the body but on average the skin is around 1 to 2 mm thick in total. Right underneath the skin, there is mainly fat.

     

  A 0.5 mm dermaroller penetrates about 0.3 mm into the skin so it reaches the top of the dermis. This roller is good in improving the overall skin texture and color.

   A 1.5 mm dermastamp is a great tool for acne scars.

 

At the moment, I do not think it is necessary to add another roller for your face. You can add a roller for your neck because you do not use the dermastamp there. When your scars improve and you do not use the dermastamp so intensively any more, add a roller.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Combining dermarolling (long needles) and single needle treatments

« on: March 24, 2012, 06:05:44 PM »

I know what you mean.

   

  When you will have completed the needling of all your scars, give your skin a break for two weeks before you start another cycle of rolling and needling.

  The regimen is OK like this.

   

  It is much better to needle every now and then a small part of the face but needle it densely and thoroughly. It is not realistic to needle all scars in one session if one has a lot of scars, stretch marks etc.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / What is the longest amount of time that a dermaroller can go between rolls and be effective long term?

« on: March 24, 2012, 06:04:26 PM »

There is absolutely no problem rolling once every six or even eight weeks with a 1.5 mm roller.

With a six or eight week interval, you should still get the benefits of dermaneedling. Too short intervals could be sub-optimal but longer intervals are definitely OK.

Dry brushing cannot replace rolling with a 0.5 mm dermaroller because the needles of this roller penetrate about 0.3 mm to the skin (they reach the top of the dermis) whereas dry brushing just exfoliates the surface of the skin.

   

  If you are happy with dry brushing, again there is no reason you must roll with a 0.5 mm roller if you prefer not to.

1071

Dermarolling / Microneedling / Please help a newbie fix his acne scars!

« on: March 24, 2012, 03:40:17 PM »

In cosmetics, the more expensive doesn't mean the better. Often, the only difference in effectiveness of a very expensive cream and a cheap one is that it will more effectively take more money out of your pocket..

   

  You know, when Estee Lauder started to sell her products, they did not sell almost at all. Guess how she made them so popular: She made them extremely expensive. People believe something so expensive surely must do miracles for their skin.

   

  Yes you can continue with your peels but if you roll with long needles, do not apply any peels until the skin is  healed.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Need some advice please on scarred/enlarged nose pores

« on: March 23, 2012, 07:30:41 PM »

Scars on the nose are very unpredictable.

I have answered a similar question here:  

  https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Dermastamp

   

A few successful stories are here:  

  https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Needling-and-dermastamp

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Silicone Therapy for Scars

« on: March 23, 2012, 07:01:37 PM »

Thanks for pointing this out. I have just fixed it in my forum posting about silicone. I meant to say needling + silicone sheets.

   

  You can use liquid silicone or silicone gel but better not immediately after needling (on open skin).

  Needle the scar to soften it and the day after you can apply silicone gel.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Melanocytes transfer for white scars and hypopigmentation

« on: March 23, 2012, 06:53:12 PM »

Please read this forum posting. There is some advice:  

  https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Stretch-Marks-Repigmentation-A-new-possibility

     

  In the beginning, do not use needling to enhance its absorption. Start applying it without needling.

   The main problem is to target only the hypopigmentation and nothing else.

   

Let us know whether it works for you.

1075

Dermarolling / Microneedling / Dermastamp

« on: March 23, 2012, 06:51:22 PM »

A 1.5 mm dermastamp is a very good choice for acne scars.  

Many of our customers improved their acne scars with dermarolling/stamping but not many were successful in reducing the pore size. Pores are not scars, pores are ducts in the skin and there is currently no method that can reliably and permanently reduce them. Dermarolling however often helped normalize acne prone skin and post-acne pigmentations.

   

  Try a 0.5 mm regular dermaroller for pores on the cheeks and for acne spots issues. Roll 2-3 times a week.

   

  For blackheads, try this:

 

https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Oil-cleansing-method-to-get-rid-of-blackheads

   

    An example of successful pore reduction:

 

https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Needling-and-dermastamp

   

  Your questions:

 

1. I will paste here my answer to another customer with the same problem:

Whenever I receive a question about scars on the nose, I get nervous.. The problem is, that the skin on the nose reacts very unpredictably comparing to the rest of the skin. Nasal skin can heal worse than you started with. There is no fat layer under that skin, there is only cartilage and that might be the reason.

I can only suggest this: Use the single needle on it but do not do any aggressive needling. Concerning the nose, ignore the guidelines for needling that are on our website. Make just three pricks into your scar (into the bottom of the scar, not into the edges).

If it heals well, make four pricks the next time. If it heals well, make five pricks the next time. Continue like this but never do aggressive, dense needling. Just a few very gentle pricks.

You can replace the single needle with a 1.5 mm dermastamp (using a dermastamp on the nose is probably easier) but the same rule applies. Start slowly and never dermastamp aggressively. Do a test patch first.

 

2. Use only a moisturizer after dermastamping. A day after, you can go back to your normal skin routine but keep the area moisturized.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Silicone Therapy for Scars

« on: March 21, 2012, 07:10:47 PM »

You mean Biodermis? I am sorry but this forum is only to support our products and it is against forum rules to namedrop products or companies. The problem is that unrestricted forums always degenerate into spamfests,  even though most bona-fide forum participants are unaware of the fact  that a large number of people are simply paid spammers located in the  Philippines, getting paid a dollar for each posting left standing. We  see a lot of that kind of spamming for dermarollers (Dr. Roller and  Scientia employ paid spammers). Nowadays, it has become impossible to  distinguish a professional spammer from a genuine forum poster.

I have written about silicone products before - they most likely work on the basis of occlusion:

https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Kelo-cote-cream-for-hypertrophic-scars

There are countless products out there and  there aren't enough hours in a day to research them all.

The product you're referring to is intended for keloid and hypertrophic scars, not acne scars so I think it's interesting that you achieved such a good result in such a short time. I wonder whether it will last. It would be great that a cream that costs a few cents to make would have such a spectacular, permanent effect on such hard-to-treat scars. I'm a bit sceptical. Biodermis is the leader in Silicone scar treatment and they specifically state that their products do not work on acne scars in point 5:

https://http://www.biodermis.com/scar_product_faq/2

To rub silicone into a needled scar would seem risky business to me, as you do not want to get silicone into your system, as it is inert (does not break down). Anything that can interfere with the inflammatory process also is a big no-no, so I would certainly not combine the two.

We may start selling such creams but only when there is strong evidence that it really works. Let us know your progress (before and after pictures), and it would be useful to have others reporting their long-term progress here as well. It's in our philosophy to offer the cheapest solution possible, so if it really works, we'd probably start selling silicone from DIY shops if the solvent they use is similar to the one used in skin creams - a comparable quantity you'll find in a silicone kit tube costs a few thousand dollars from Biodermis. Since the principle is occlusion, silicone from a home improvement shop should have a comparable effect..

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Hyperpigmentation - Acne

« on: March 21, 2012, 03:44:23 PM »

I mean the red crusts your photos called "Left" that you emailed me.

   

  How long have you had them unhealed like that? There are also some indented scars on your photos. Not many and not deep, but scars.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Dermaroller BODY. Please advice

« on: March 21, 2012, 03:43:50 PM »

Yes, you can needle immediately after dermarolling or any time later.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Hyperpigmentation - Acne

« on: March 20, 2012, 07:44:43 PM »

I have looked at the photos you had emailed me.

  There is a problem with some of your red spots. They are not just spots; they are in fact scars filled with unhealed tissue/crusts. When it finally heals, you will be left with scars, most likely.  You already have a few scars as you know.

         The reason why long-lasting serious acne leaves scars is because acne causes intensive, long lasting skin inflammation and intensive chronic inflammation eventually damages the skin, it results in skin atrophy = indented scars.

  Since you did not mention any scars, only hyperpigmented spots, I did not suggest anything to address scars. You will have to add a 1.5 mm dermastamp to your sessions. Stamp only the scars that are already healed (they do not have the red crust).

  Continue using bezoyl peroxide. You should continue with your usual skin routines but do not apply benzoyl peroxide immediately after dermarolling.

  Do not use Infadolan after dermarolling with a 0,5 mm roller. It could make you break out. Use Infadolan only after stamping with the 1 5 mm dermastamp.

  Roll your entire face three times a week with the 0.5 mm dermaroller Apply Tretinoin (A-Ret) on the days that you do not roll. This should help with the redness and the crusts but you have to be patient.

  If the crusts start to heal, do not stamp them yet. Let it completely heal first. When it becomes a scar, start stamping it every three weeks.

  When you improve the crusts and the scars, you may need to use a 1 mm dermaroller to even out the overall skin texture.

  Apply vit. C for 3 consecutive days prior to dermastamping. For the rest, apply it only every 2-3 days.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Acne Scar Advice

« on: March 20, 2012, 07:42:09 PM »

Your skin looks tough so it can probably handle the 0.05 %.

   

  If the skin becomes too red and irritated, reduce the frequency of application. A pea size blob of the cream is enough for the entire face. The more is not the better concerning Tretinoin.

   Needle the scars whenever you have time (without the dermastamp afterwards) but always needle a different scar.

   

    In addition, once a month, needle the deepest of your scars (ice pick) and use the 2 mm dermastamp on them immediately after.

   

  Let us know how it goes.