Sarah Vaughter answers questions about OwnDoc products
Forums => Dermarolling / Microneedling => Topic started by: Anna on November 29, 2010, 11:01:16 PM
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: Anna on November 29, 2010, 11:01:16 PM
Hi Sarah, I just received my package today Im so excited!!! but i do have a couple of questions if you dont mind i want to get this right before i attempt to roll; ok, how long do i wait before using my regular face cream( which contains antioxidants and whatnot )so as not to interfere with the collagen being rebuilt? and do i apply infadolan immediatelly after rolling or do i wait a day or two? and seeing i have oily acne prone skin is it a good idea to use a heavier cream like infadolan? if not what can i use as a substitute? thanks in advance, Anna
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: SarahVaughter on November 30, 2010, 12:54:02 PM
Infadolan is a protective and regenerative ointment that should be applied (just a little) immediately after rolling with long needles (longer than 0.5 mm). Initially the skin is dry and rough after rolling and should be well protected.
After a day or two (depending how quickly you heal) you can start your normal routines (except for peels or harsh exfoliation). Antioxidant creams do not interfere with collagen production, you can use your regular creams without any restriction.
I know that Aquaphor is often recommended for first two days after Fraxel laser but I think it is also an ointment.
If protective ointments cause you breakouts, use a cream that you already know doesn’t cause you breakouts. It is very difficult for me to name any because some acne sufferers claim breaking out after creams that didn’t cause breakouts in other acne suffers so it is more a matter of individual experience.
I answered a similar question here: Scroll down to my reply posted on November 30th, 2010 06:40 AM
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: Anna on November 30, 2010, 03:23:31 PM
ok thank you so much
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: Anna on November 30, 2010, 03:33:01 PM
oh btw i just read an older thread about avoiding anti inflammitory creams, if the cream i use has those properties do i need to avoid using it or can i still use t after a period of time?
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: SarahVaughter on December 01, 2010, 02:22:29 PM
You can use such a cream two days after microneedling.
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: Anna on December 01, 2010, 05:09:18 PM
thank you again
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: kakalakingma on December 05, 2010, 09:09:21 PM
SarahVaughter;859 wrote: You can use such a cream two days after microneedling.
Wait, really, Sarah?
I thought the healing process depends on each individual with the whole mild-inflammatory process. Can someone really heal that fast (2 days) with 1.5-mm needle? If you applied anti-inflammatory products on your skin during that process, you are not optimizing the collegan and remodeling benefits of microneedling, right?
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: SarahVaughter on December 06, 2010, 06:29:57 AM
Inflammation doesn’t last that long after dermarolling. Please read my posting about the nature of inflammation:
In micro-injuries, the inflammatory stage rapidly completes, whereas collagen production and other triggered responses continue. They are unaffected by anti-inflammatories.
The full cycle of skin remodeling and collagen production takes several months because it is in fact a complex biochemical trajectory that is followed. The initial type of collagen is very slowly altered into a more permanent type of collagen. This is a non-inflammatory process.
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: Anna on December 06, 2010, 07:31:03 AM
ok, so I was going to use my other face cream that does contain antiinflammitories but I've been sticking with infadolan because even though it feels a little greasy it hasn't broke me up AND is probably the reason my redness calmed down so fast plus I had a few red marks from some break outs I had a week ago and it lightened them up like really fast so I'm gonna keep using this stuff I llove it
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: kakalakingma on December 06, 2010, 10:00:09 AM
SarahVaughter;897 wrote: Inflammation doesn’t last that long after dermarolling. Please read my posting about the nature of inflammation:
In micro-injuries, the inflammatory stage rapidly completes, whereas collagen production and other triggered responses continue. They are unaffected by anti-inflammatories.
The full cycle of skin remodeling and collagen production takes several months because it is in fact a complex biochemical trajectory that is followed. The initial type of collagen is very slowly altered into a more permanent type of collagen. This is a non-inflammatory process.
Yeah, Sarah, I have read that post before. Thanks for bringing it up. But let me just ask for clarification: the micro-injuries from 1.5mm derma rolling is acute inflammatory stage or what? Because on your other post you state that acute inflammatory stage takes a few days and depends on how long the needle is. I think this is where I got concerned about the 2 days thing. Like, is a few days equivalent to 2 days or just depends on the individual as they see if all the signs of inflammation (redness, swelling, increased heat, pain) are good then they are good. Well thanks anyway
Title: when can i resume using my regular face cream after rolling
Post by: SarahVaughter on December 07, 2010, 03:25:59 PM
Yes, it is an acute inflammatory stage. It can take hours or a couple of days but the injuries from dermarolling are miniscule and in most cases the acute inflammation subsides within 24 hours after rolling with long needles. It may take longer with single needling since it is a denser, more aggressive method. The intensity of the inflammation depends on the severity of the injury.
Even if there was some residual inflammation after two days, it is not a big deal to apply a cream that is a part of your daily routine. Just don't apply a strong anti-inflammatory product right after dermarolling.
This graph shows the stages of healing. Keep in mind that it pertains to serious injuries and wounds.