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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Subcision-suction method for acne scars

« on: May 15, 2012, 04:21:52 PM »

Arachne;3546 wrote: Hi Boafriend. Yes, the corks have to fit onto the pump in such a way that there is no air leakage possible. There are two places that must be absolutely airtight: the join between cork and pump, and also the join between skin and cork. If there's even a tiny gap anywhere in those two places you will not be able to produce a vacuum. Another thing is that you have to press hard all the time while you are pumping. Dewydewey's comment about the bicycle pump is exactly right. That's what it reminded me of too. It's a matter of luck whether your wine pump will work, as it depends on its design. I had another type of pump which did not work because the corks are not designed to fit onto the pump in the same way: you simply position the pump over the top of the cork and press down to form a seal. That's fine for wine bottles standing upright on a table, but it doesn't work for our purposes because you can't exert the necessary pressure when you try to press horizontally against your face. So it's important to get the right kind of pump.

Yeah the way these corks fit into the pump look similar to the designs we've been seeing but I'm wondering if it's the fact that these corks are rubber that's preventing them from really staying in firm place in the pump. =/ Maybe I'll try looking for a different one today. I'm guessing I should look for a pump in which the corks included are made of perhaps plastic or metal?

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Subcision-suction method for acne scars

« on: May 15, 2012, 01:08:05 AM »

Dewydewey;3542 wrote: Hi Boafriend,

I remember seeing this brand at my store but opted to purchase one that resembled the picture that Arachne had posted. Mine is from Vacuvin.  Are you sure you have a tight seal on the area?  Also are you pulling all the way up on the pump?  You may have to pump a few times.  Just like Arachne posted, my Vacuvin wine vacuum makes a clicking noise and it is at this time there is so much pressure built up that one can no longer get in another pump.  It is very similar to how my air pump feels when I am putting air in my bicycle tire-except of pushing down you are pushing up.  There is a definite point where you feel the tight pressure and know it is time to stop pumping.

 

Yeah, this is the funny part. I feel that the corks don't FIRMLY fit into the pump. I don't know if this is the reason why.

And yes, I'm pretty sure I'm pulling all the way up on the pump. I also tested on an area of my leg (with some oil applied prior) and I didn't experience anything. Absolutely no tight suction feeling and no clicking sound of any sort. =/

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Subcision-suction method for acne scars

« on: May 14, 2012, 09:04:05 PM »

So I bought this wine vacuum pump and I feel absolutely NO suction or tugging feeling on the skin with my pump.



Any idea as to what I'm doing wrong? There's no button or anything and I know you just stick one of the cork things in and start pumping, but...yeah I'm not feeling anything.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Subcision-suction method for acne scars

« on: May 09, 2012, 01:40:35 PM »

So how long are we supposed perform the suctioning if we are using a wine pump? And how long between each "suctioning?" (ex. 5 seconds every pump for 2 minutes, etc.)

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / About Improvement/Collagen Production

« on: May 06, 2012, 03:15:46 AM »

Ok, thanks Sarah.

I'll buy a wine pump and we'll see what happens from there on out.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / About Improvement/Collagen Production

« on: May 03, 2012, 08:01:11 PM »

Thanks for your reply.

Yeah this suction method...I don't get it...so we pretty much have to use some sort of device that'll suck onto the skin 3 days after needling? It seems like a lot of work, and I'd have no idea where to get a hold of such a suction device (although I do have Chinese suction pots). =/

Also, Sarah, I stamped pretty aggressively my first round w/ the 2mm last month, and I wanted to also ask your opinion on exactly how long and aggressive the stamping should be? I've read your threads and dermarolling/stamping instructions and places such as Acne.org's scarring forum and I'm understanding that generally 2 minutes of stamping is suggested with the stamping of scars 10 times in 4 directions. I've also heard people suggesting that one stamp scars until the cracking/popping sounds completely stop. Last month when I stamped, it was very bloody and I stamped for quite some time...I'd say 5 minutes in total? However as much as I stamped, the popping/cracking noises on my dents never stopped (I'm guessing this is because of the tethered underlying structures). Just wondering what your opinion is on this.

Next, I've read your recommendations on other threads of incoporating single needling along with dermastamping since single needling is most intensive. Would single needling in addition to stamping help? Also, I've read your instructions but I'm still not clear on single needling - so we pretty much prick at the scars from all angles/directions?

Lastly, so if I just aggressively stamp every 4-5 weeks (without doing that suction method) - will I be able to see improvements (theoretically speaking, since I know everyone's skin heals differently)?

I know that was a lot, but I'd really appreciate your advice and help. Thanks so much.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / About Improvement/Collagen Production

« on: May 02, 2012, 01:01:43 PM »

Hi Sarah:

So I've scoured the forum and have read your "Warning about rolling frequency" thread and I just wanted to ask a few things.

Today is exactly 1 month since my first stamping session.I read in the "Warning about rolling frequency" thread that collagen production is not finished in even 5 weeks, but at least the first stages are complete. I know improvement takes time (and I guess I'm impatient too) but I don't think I've seen any improvement, and I'm wondering if I should wait longer or just have a second stamping session soon.

Also, I'm wondering in terms of collagen production...let's just say the collagen has already been under process - if I stamp rigorously this 2nd time, will it possibly damage the collagen that has already been produced this past month (and same for every month after)?

Here is a picture of my scars that I'm dealing with (2 rolling scars). I used a 2.0mm stamp the first session (someone on Acne.org recommended a 2.0 to make sure I'm really hitting the dermis. I know 1.5mm is the usual recommended).



(This was taken about 2 weeks after the first stamping session, just an FYI. Also the dark spot near the top right isn't another dent, just a dry spot from a pimple that was healing)

Thanks so much.