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Dermarolling / Microneedling / broken capillaries or Rosacea

« on: August 31, 2010, 01:48:45 PM »

If Rosacea is severe, it is not recommended to use a dermaroller.  Since the cause of Rosacea is unknown, it is rather unpredictable what can worsen Rosacea.  In mild cases, do a test patch and you will see. It might be totally OK but unfortunately not everybody reacts the same way - so a test patch is a must.

   

  Concerning broken capillaries, there are claims that a dermaroller could improve this condition. However, neither myself nor any of our customers have reported improvement with broken capillaries. Neither do they reportedly worsen, though. I achieved improvement of my wrinkles after several months. The wrinkles are still there but they are shallower.

     

  Please read my previous posting about Rosacea:

   

  https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Dermarolling-and-Rosacea

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Which kit is right for me?

« on: August 27, 2010, 02:33:28 PM »

The good news is that even very old stretch marks can be improved. Old stretch marks often improve more with rolling and needling than fresh ones. You just need patience and perseverance. Do not expect the stretch marks to disappear. That is unrealistic - unless they are very shallow. Stretch marks are very deep cracks in the skin in most cases. The male skin is thicker than female skin and the skin on the back is very thick. That’s why you need a 2 mm roller kit with the single needles and vit. C and the Infadolan ointment. It will be a bit painful. You can numb with an ice pack or you can use our numbing cream (EMLA).

We have temporarily run out of 2 mm rollers though, but new ones are on their way and expected in a couple of weeks. Check back around that time to see them appear again in our web store.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / 1.5mm on face for male? (and other questions)

« on: August 23, 2010, 06:02:55 AM »

We sell vitamin C very cheaply here (and the cost of sending is about 1 to 3 dollars, depending on how much you order):

Cheap vitamin C for dermarolling skin serum

How to prepare it is on page 5 of our instructions:

https://http://dermaroller.owndoc.com/dermaroller-instructions.pdf

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Dermarolling and make up

« on: August 22, 2010, 06:27:57 PM »

If you rolled with 1.5 mm, I would recommend waiting until Sunday. With 1 mm long needles you can apply makeup on Saturday night, provided your powder and concealer are not too old. If they are very old: Buy new, such as to avoid bacterial contamination of the open skin.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / 1.5mm on face for male? (and other questions)

« on: August 22, 2010, 06:25:03 PM »

1 - You should definitely use a homemade vit. C serum. Vit. C is very unstable and it is not easy to stabilize it. The concentration of vit. C in the creams is usually low. The serum should be freshly made (every ten days or so).

   

Recently a customer wrote me that her surgeon, who performed a radiofrequency procedure on her (it warms up the deeper layers of the skin) to increase collagen production told her there is no point in doing more than three sessions because the improvement happens mainly with the first three sessions.

   

  On the other hand, we have customers who get better and better results with their stretch marks, acne scars and pigmentation after several months of monthly rolling. But results vary per individual.

   

  You can try to roll with 1.5 mm every 5-6 weeks. You will see whether you get red every time. In between you can roll with 0.5.

   

  Even without redness, the micro-damage to the skin is accomplished and the body will repair it. The skin will get renewed.

 

 2 - Then you are lucky because you have thick skin. I have quite some pinpoint bleeding with 1.5 mm, especially on my forehead. 1.5 mm long needles definitely reach the dermis so it reaches the stretch marks. The burning sensation is a sign that your body is fixing the micro-damage cause by rolling.

   

  If you have the energy for it and want to do maximally targeted treatment you should combine a 1.5 mm roller with the single needle that we sell separately.

   

  I have to say that some of our customers achieved very good improvement and some haven't. None of the customers reported a total resolution of their stretch marks. Just improvement in texture, depth and color.

 

    3 - Not really. The dark circles are caused by lacking or receding subcutaneous fat. That area just under the eyes has almost no fat and a very thin skin. You can see through the structures under the skin (muscle, veins etc) and it makes the skin optically dark. The main problem is the missing fat. I don't think that a dermaroller can thicken the skin to the point to actually replace a missing layer of fat. A concealer works because it changes the optical perception of the skin. Dermal filler works but since this area is so thin any mistake made by a surgeon injecting it will be noticeable. It is a tricky area for many reasons.

   

  A dermaroller can partially fix mild skin laxity in that area but it cannot replace fat layers.

 

   4 - I can't comment of efficacy of any creams. I can only guarantee that dermarolling will greatly enhance its absorption. The cream could potentially help, it has good ingredients beneficial to the skin but that's all - no guarantees.

   

  Recently, a customer reported that her sun pigmentations improved by rolling several times a week with a 0.25 roller. She started rolling during Christmas. She said there are areas of her face where she hasn't rolled (the hairline of her forehead) and the pigmentation is still there. She applied rose hip oil after rolling.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / anyone on the forum that has used single-needling on surgery scars......

« on: August 20, 2010, 03:45:47 PM »

We do not have yet photos of surgery scars but we will soon post some high-resolution photos of very old white vaccination scars of one of our customers.

  The scars got significantly improved by a few single needling sessions.

Here: https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Does-dermarolling-work-for-surgery-scars

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Just want to get it right!

« on: August 20, 2010, 03:36:46 PM »

> dry brushing and application of vitamin C straight after for a few days

  > before dermarolling.

   

    Yes. Provided that it doesn't sting  too much. Vit. C is acidic and it will always sting a little but it should be bearable. If it stings too much, add more water to your serum.

   

   

> on the day of dermarolling - one hour after rolling apply vitamin c and an  

> hour after apply infaldon cream.

   

    No. If you roll with long needles, do not apply vit.C immediately. It will sting a lot. You should apply vit. C on the days before rolling to build up a high concentration in the skin and you can apply even some hours before rolling but not after rolling with long needles. Vit. C remains in the skin

  for several days. There is no need to torture yourself by applying it right after rolling with long needles.  The stinging is very painful and unnecessary.

   

  Infadolan should be applied immediately after rolling.  It is a protective, regenerative ointment and it has a non-acidic form of vit. A.

   

   

  >keep regularly applying infaldon cream on face once a day after that

  >(preferably at night)

   

  Apply a little bit of Infadolan just after rolling. It will keep the skin moist, helps prevent infection and supplies the much-needed vit. A and D.

  Continue for several days. You should not continue if you're very prone to acne. In that case apply it just after rolling.

   

    Basically, if you roll anywhere on your body, apply Infadolan after rolling and quite a few days afterwards.

   

  If you roll your face, apply it after rolling and depending on your acne situation, continue or not.

   

     

  >Can I still continue to apply vitamin C solution as well on the days after

  >rolling?

   

  Definitely. It is very important. You should restart a day or two days after rolling.

   

     

  >I plan to do the 1.5mm roll on friday as I work full time however, since

  >you mentioned the peeling process - how bad is this since I will be going

  >to work on the following Monday.

  There is almost no peeling. You will not even notice. There is usually some noticeable peeling after single needling only.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / dermarolling for stretchmarks w/breast implants under the muscle safe??

« on: August 20, 2010, 02:53:04 PM »

Hi Rita.

   

  Breast implants pose absolutely no problem to rolling or needling. You could not reach the implants even if you wanted to. A 1.5 mm roller's needles penetrate about 1.3 mm into the skin and the maximum penetration of the single needle is 2 mm. The implants reside much deeper.

     

A 0.5 mm roller penetrates about 0.3 mm into the skin.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / STOP Tripollar

« on: August 19, 2010, 06:49:19 PM »

I have an opinion :-)

It may have some beneficial effects, but I think it is greatly over-hyped. I have a couple remarks on their marketing material:

"The local heating causes an immediate contraction of the collagen fibers  and at the same time increases its metabolism"

Collagen fibers do not have a "metabolism".

"It is recommended that the STOP™ device not be used more than once every  other day. Letting the skin rest in between each treatment is  important  to allow the natural process of the skin’s collagen renewal  to take full effect."



Collagen regeneration takes (many) weeks, not 48 hours.

Their "clinical papers" are suspicious. When you read the final sentence, they admit (because they are obliged to by law) that the ones doing the testing have been paid by the producer of the device, Ultragen Ltd. They do not mention how much money Ultragen paid, but there are millions made with such gadgets. They sell for 250 Euro or thereabouts but are made in China and cost about 25 Euro (or even significantly less) to make. It is not too hard to find a few dermatologists willing to tweak their results, in return for a generous "study grant". We see that all the time with such devices. Such "studies" look bona-fide at first glance but at closer scrutiny are nothing more than advertisements.

When you look at the website of the device's manufacturer, you'll see they market similar devices, with claims as "melt away your cellulite". Sorry folks - there is nothing much you can do against cellulite. I did my homework on cellulite and if there would be anything that "melts away cellulite" I would have given it ample attention in my Cellulite article.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Questions about your vit. A D ointment Infadolan

« on: August 19, 2010, 05:35:05 PM »

Yes (it's safe to use), and yes, after a while you can use creams again. Creams do not penetrate through ointments, because ointments are oily. But you use only a very small amount of Infadolan so after a day, there are no issues with that.

   Infadolan is perfectly safe to be used every day. Nevertheless Infadolan is a protective regenerative ointment, not a cream so it is greasy. For that

  reason it is probably not so pleasant to use it as a daily cream all over the face. Many of our customers use it daily just around the eyes and they

  are very content with the results. They also apply it on the back of the hands. It will stay there throughout the day. It prevents the skin from drying out. Very little will do.

 

  Apply a little bit of Infadolan just after rolling. It will keep the skin moist, help preventing infection and supply the much-needed vit. A and D.  Continue for several days. You should not continue if you're very prone to acne. In that case, apply it just after rolling.

 

  Basically, if you roll anywhere on your body, apply Infadolan after rolling and quite a few days afterwards.

   

  If you roll your face, apply it after rolling and depending on your acne situation, continue or not.

   

  You can start regular facial creams, preferebly containing vit. A.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / derma stamp

« on: August 19, 2010, 05:34:35 PM »

The beginning of winter.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Breast lift

« on: August 15, 2010, 04:03:05 PM »

Your English is perfect.  Unfortunately Dove, I have bad news for you. .

  Sagging breasts are due to the loose supportive "structures" inside them.

  If the skin is loose in texture, that can be partially fixed by a dermaroller but there is no way a dermaroller can provide a breast lift.

A dermaroller will improve your stetchmarks and it can tighten the skin texture to a certain point. A dermaroller has an effect on the skin only. Meaning: To a depth of 2 mm.

     

  If you are losing weight, the fat is disappearing from your breasts as well (unfortunately) and it makes them look loose.

     

  So sorry - I do not know any method apart from surgery to achieve a breast lift..

   

  Breasts themselves have no real muscles - they cannot be lifted by exercises.

  Breasts consist mainly of fat.

   

  There is a new, interesting method of enlarging breasts with specially treated autologous fat. Fat has been used as filler for many years but it never lasted long in the body. It was absorbed. The new method mixes the fat with stem cells and the result is very long lasting. It looks totally natural.

   

  Here are some photos form a Japanese clinic:

   

  https://http://www.cellport.jp/english/example/list_bust.html

   

  It is rather expensive at the moment but it will eventually get cheaper. You may consider it in the future.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Dermarolling fresh surgery scars?

« on: August 13, 2010, 02:41:37 AM »

For dermarolling open skin, an ointment is better than a cream, sorry not to have been more clear. Ointments are oil-based and are occlusive, they prevent evaporation and therefore prevent excessive drying out of the skin. Also, Retin A is acidic and certainly not the best solution for open skin. Dr. Des. Fernandes thinks the same. We talk about this on this forum and on the sales page. So Infadolan is the best way to supply vitamin A to your skin after dermarolling, as it contains the pH-neutral Retinol Acetate instead of the abrasive Retinoic Acid.

(For stubborn stretch marks, old scars or hypertrophic scars, I do recommend applying the A-Ret gel (it contains Retinoic Acid = Tretinoin) right after dermarolling).

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Dermarolling fresh surgery scars?

« on: August 13, 2010, 02:35:24 AM »

We think the best ointment is Infadolan. It is not a cream though, but an occlusive ointment. We think an occlusive ointment with vit. A in the form of Acetate is the best (and not just us, see the various forum topics and our sales page for a detailed explanation).

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Which dermaroller for acne scarring and lines?

« on: August 11, 2010, 05:23:21 PM »

I would definitely go for the 1 mm roller or longer, if any scars are involved. 0.5 mm can be used for pigmentations (they are usually shallow) or for skin care product penetration enhancement or for speeding up the skin's turnover. A 0.5 mm roller doesn't reach the dermis or merely the top of it (depending how thick your skin is.)

   

  When treating scars, you should use needles long enough to reach the dermis, which is the deeper part of skin.

   

  Use the single needle that we sell, to needle individual scars (scars only).  Use the single needle to needle the individual wrinkles. They will not totally disappear but they will become shallower. I have experience with it myself. It works well but of course don't expect total miracles.