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This forum is now read-only because giving personalized medical advice is illegal unless there is a doctor-patient relationship and thus makes us automatically unlimitedly liable for any damages, real or imagined. When we started this forum we were a tiny company - we now are the largest dermaneedling company in the western world. Use the search function above this text and you'll likely find the answers you're looking for. If you need our support with an order, please file a ticket at http://owndoc.support but rememer that we can't answer questions on how to use our products or even which product to buy.