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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Dermarollers and creams after - clogging, irritating?

« Last post by SarahVaughter on October 17, 2013, 04:53:37 PM »

I tend not to advise a specific dermarolling aftercare product for acne-prone individuals because what causes breakouts in one, does not cause breakouts in the other and vice versa so I prefer that acne-prone individuals use products they know from their own experience.
You have to keep the treated area moisturized with a cream that you know from your experience does not break you out.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Can weight loss make scars more prominent?

« Last post by SarahVaughter on October 17, 2013, 04:48:25 PM »

Do not worry about it - I was mainly referring to wrinkles. When you lose fat, scars may or may not worsen in appearance. We have customers whose stretch marks look worse after losing weight - they look deeper and the elasticity deteriorated but we also have those whose stretch marks kind of shrunk in width after weight loss so it can be both.

I am not saying losing weight will make definitely worsen scars, I am just saying it can negatively affect scars and especially lines and wrinkles because the thickness of the underlying "cushion" is reduced.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Can weight loss make scars more prominent?

« Last post by user886 on October 17, 2013, 04:19:47 PM »

I've been losing weight quickly at 2lbs a week.  Percentages are hard because I didn't take any before/after pictures and scars look so different depending the on angle, lighting, etc.  But with that being said, I can safely say that I see noticeable improvement in them...perhaps 10-15% from needling and stamping two times.  The box scar probably showed the most improvement, the rolling I feel like has improved but the weight loss definitely seemed to affect it negatively, the ice picks improved some, enlarged pores didnt seem to change much at all. 

I just stamp the large/not so bad scars and for the smaller and deeper ones I needle the heck out of them and then stamp them a few times right after.

I don't apply anything.  Maybe I should.  I just dont know what to go with exactly and im worried about side effects like redness, irritation and breakouts.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Tretinoin use on stretch marks just after dermastamping

« Last post by Tanya2013 on October 17, 2013, 02:29:18 PM »

Dear Sarah,

Greetings from Deutschland! First of all, thanks for the superb support system for products through this forum. It really helps to have an extensive discussion of a range of topics when trying something DIY for skin problems.

I am both dermarolling and stamping with 1.5 each for two months now. I also used single needles once but figured that it's too laborious for me, and started stamping instead. Finished two sessions. I am treating stretch marks on legs (behind knees and calves). I can't report any progress yet, and it's not long enough as I have read everywhere.

        In the first session I single needled one leg quite extensively (but not enough I guess, as I was a first timer). On the second leg I first dermaroller, then obviously couldn't needle well as it was all red from rolling.
In my second session, I used the dermastamp first quite extensively and then dermarolled the whole area. I don't have specific number of times times and directions for dermarolling..I just roll in random directions (lifting the roller in between and roll until I can take the pain 6-10 times or so after stamping)

My question is: I used tretinoin 0.1% (Retirides 0.1%) immediately after on the stretch marks (they are spaced quite close, so it's hard to miss the normal skin in between..I try nevertheless). I do not seem to peel as I have read everywhere. Also it doesn't sting me immediately after rolling. I have pretty sensitive skin, so this seemed a bit odd to me. Your comments would be valuable to me as a beginner, so I improvise for better results. My scars are very old (puberty around 11 years or so) and I am 31 now.
(I use infadolan and vitamin c too as per the dermarolling instructions and other posts in this forum. I was not consistent with topicals the first time, now I am trying to be more consistent with vit c and retin a. I apply infadolan only on the rolling day, on top of retin a)

Another question is more about statistics. You mentioned somewhere on this forum that a small percent of customers didn't see any improvement in their stretch marks, even after long term rolling. Can there be a pattern in those cases, e.g. Age, gender, how old the marks are etc. which could affect the results..I have my anxieties about the whole process as I am really bothered by mine being in an awkward place..I have plenty of other stretch marks on my tummy, bottom and upper legs, from my twin pregnancy two years ago, which I plan to treat later after I see some success with this area.

I know that this is not a quick fix and it is not going to remove them..all I want is significant reduction and I plan to continue long term and keep you and this community posted with my progress.

Thanks again! 

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Dermarolling stretch marks - update

« Last post by SarahVaughter on October 17, 2013, 11:31:12 AM »

She emailed me two days ago with an update. The attached photos are of the same skin:

Hey Sarah just sending some updated pics... The first is taken in natural light and the second is taken under bright lights in a room...these pics are after 4 sessions of dermastamping... It has been 3 months exactly as of today...

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Using makeup after dermarolling

« Last post by scarredforlife on October 17, 2013, 10:39:22 AM »

Thank you. This really clears things up for me. It's not that I am ignoring your advice about the 2.0, but I am contemplating all avenues and in this instance, I say 2.0 because even if I don't start out with that, I do believe I will eventually use it, and I would not want to come back to the forum and bother you once again with the same question regarding the 2.0, and also, a 2.0 derma stamp, which you did advise that I use, presents the same issue. I hope you didn't take offense, because I really do value your advice. I am well aware that as a vendor, you have to stay on the conservative side to protect yourself and your business, and while I can certainly appreciate that, I am more interested in your logic behind the suggestions so that I can make my own judgment on how risky it is. You have certainly done this and provided me with just what I was looking for, so thank you again.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Can weight loss make scars more prominent?

« Last post by KT on October 17, 2013, 09:42:08 AM »

Thank you for your honesty, Sarah. It's refreshing. It is a little disappointing since I was holding out hope that just maybe as I lost weight, the skin would tighten to accommodate less fat, thereby essentially giving the skin a mild face-lift and making up for any lost fat. I am glad you cleared that up for me because there is nothing worse than unrealistic expectations. I am going to add the dermastamp as you suggested. Also, thank you user886 for your input. It gives me light at the end of the tunnel. I am so happy that you have seen improvements while losing weight. That is a great accomplishment and I hope to follow in your footsteps. Did you lose the weight quickly or slowly? I think that might also make a difference. Also, do you have a percent estimate of how much your scars improved?

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Can weight loss make scars more prominent?

« Last post by user886 on October 16, 2013, 11:46:35 PM »

Oh wow this is interesting.  I had no idea.  Funny I actually started needling around the same time I started dieting.  I have lost a ton of weight and am in the best shape of my life yet have still seen improvement in my acne scars from needling.  Now I can't help but wonder what they'd look like if I didn't just drop 30lbs of fat lol

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Can weight loss make scars more prominent?

« Last post by SarahVaughter on October 16, 2013, 06:24:14 PM »

Congratulations with your weight loss. It is hard..

Yes, the scars, wrinkles and lines may look worse because there is no better plumping material than your own fat.

Basically, you either have to sacrifice your face or your butt. Meaning, if you want to have a naturally wrinkle-free face, you basically have to be at least moderately obese (= big butt).  As soon as your butt shrinks, say goodbye to the plumpness of the face. It's not fair, is it?

Concerning acne scars, you should add a dermastamp:

https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/best-way-to-get-better-results/

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Using makeup after dermarolling

« Last post by SarahVaughter on October 16, 2013, 06:23:32 PM »

I see you chose to ignore my advice not to use your 2 mm dermaroller: (https://http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/using-multiple-length-dermarollers-simultaneously)

My remark about make-up and infection was from 2010 and from our experience since, this is not really an issue because there are no infections happening. In 2010 when dermarolling method was hardly known, I was very conservative in that regard.

Nevertheless, I had and have other reasons to advise not to use makeup shortly after microneedling with long needles, unless you really have to. Make-up usually dries out the skin and the skin should be kept moisturized as much as you can after microneedling, until it heals. So make sure your makeup does not dry out the skin and apply a cream underneath the makeup.

You probably agree with me that when you for example get a strong sunburn, applying makeup on it is certainly not an optimal solution.

My advice is what I consider optimal. So, after rolling with such long needles on Friday, do not apply makeup until at least Sunday morning, especially if the skin is still "raw" from the session on Friday. If you have to apply makeup, then apply it.